Eight is Enough

Discussion in 'The Beach' started by markbano, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Hello everyone!

    It has been awhile! Had a great week with the BanoDyne last week up north.

    Attached is a picture of 8 behind the boat.

    I will try to post more pics soon.

    Markbano
     

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  2. stapletm

    stapletm Established Hydrodyner

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    Impressive, especially that you had 8 ropes ;)
     
  3. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    We did come up with eight ropes, but one of them is a short, two-handled rope that is used for disking (for standing on the head trick). That rope is much shorter - which is why my son looks like he is twice the size of everyone else - he's just a lot closer! (Although he is a 6' 1" 190lb 14 year old....).

    Several of the biggest guys actually look the smallest because they are further back - including the guy who is forth from the right - who is a champion body builder and a very big guy. He insisted on wearing a captain's hat. Don't ask me why...

    From the left:

    Victor (nephew), Alexis (daughter), Mark (son), Steven (Nephew), Matt (nephew) Steve, Sr. (brother), Tim (nephew) and Ben (my other son).

    Long family tradition. You either waterski in my family or you have to find a different family.

    Note that I pulled 4 from the tow pole and the other 4 from a harness. If I put all eight on the tow pole from a deep water start it tends to make the bow rise and is a harder pull. This is the downside of having the tow pole so far aft.

    Sadly - several days earlier - my boat failed to pull up 6 people - which included a 275lb nephew and a 240 lb nephew from my other brother's family. I guess the boat just wasn't quite up to it - or maybe the skiiers weren't quite up to it. I tried to pull all of them from the tow pole, which I know from experience is not a great way to pull up more than 1,100 lbs of dead weight on a deep water start. A shorter prop and a harness would have made the difference.

    Nonetheless.... the humiliation was more than I can stand, so I need to get started on my 20' twin rig project....
     
  4. stapletm

    stapletm Established Hydrodyner

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    " 20' twin rig project", LOL - wish you were on my Lake, we could have fun. My record is 6, byt that's because we ran out of skis and ropes.
     
  5. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    We were so short of skis and ropes that we had people on two slalom skis, and my nephew was even using a 12" wide "big daddy" slalom ski on one foot. One of my nephews was on children's skis. A couple of our ropes are so old I wasn't sure they were giong to hold up.... Too funny.

    I'm serious about the twin rig project. It's coming.... stay tuned....
     
  6. stapletm

    stapletm Established Hydrodyner

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    I thought you might be serious, good stuff! I, and I'm sure many on the forum, look forward to BanoResto2, bigger and better (ok, perhaps not better ;-)
     
  7. ghind

    ghind Established Hydrodyner

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    Mark, your post has put a huge smile on my face. Made my day!

    The only thing worse than stopping the boat is breaking the ski pole. We've done both of those things. More than once!

    I think you'd like our twin rig. Last time we tried it took 100 seconds for our twin to build enough power for the skiers to come up. We pulled everything it could, it had nothing left. To do better we had to change the props.

    This time, with 30% more people and some really nice black smoke it took only 22 seconds to pull them all up!!!

    Changing the props was a bit of a task (see the photo below) and here is the video of us skiing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07iVyfX5snk

    No old ropes in this run!
     

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    Sorry, but could you upload it again? There were some issues with the video upload script, apparently related to the server upgrade from a few months ago. Your video was never processed. All is well now. :)
     
  10. ghind

    ghind Established Hydrodyner

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    Thanks Bryan, this one works http://www.hydrodyners.com/videos/IMG_2 ... 001412.wmv

    I changed from a 21" Cyclone (BRP) prop to a 19" Cyclone before doing this. If anything, the boat has less pulling power with the 19" Cyclone. I noticed afterwards the 19 is a larger diameter prop and this extra diameter holds the revs back under heavy loads to the same or slightly less than the 21. We were pulling about 3200-3300rpm as the skiers planed. I had hoped the 19 would lift it up to about 3800rpm, but it was much the same as with the 21. With light loads, the holeshot is faster with the 19". You have to be careful pulling dock starts.

    I didn't properly load up a 19" High Five but the pulling power of the boat would be less. Too little diameter. But the holeshot is brutal with light loads eg one slalom dock start. Even with a tight rope, literally half throttle is enough to have people seriously complain about the fast hit and any more is just comical.

    I've put a 21" Cyclone back on now! I've got a damaged 21" Cyclone that I'd like to get repaired and repitched to 19" I think that would be an excellent pulling prop as it would have the right diameter and the right pitch.

    All 11 were pulled from the pylon but you can see I've got the Pylon tied forward. I don't want to bust another one!
     

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