1972 Keel Up Restoration

Discussion in 'Restoration Projects & Questions' started by tj309, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    I cannot drive to my dock. What I do now is fill a 14 gal fuel caddy at the gas station and bring it home in the bed of my truck. The BS wheels failed years ago so now I have the caddy strapped to a hand truck. So far this is the best solution and I have been doing this for the last 5 years. My son-in-law looked into getting gas on the lake and it would be a 15K investment if I could talk the guy that ownes the major convenience store on the lake to supply me free electricity to run the pump. I figgure the increased traffic at his store would more than pay for the electricity to run the pump. On top of the 15K investment for the infrastructure I would have to pay whatever it would cost to fill the big tank that supplies the gas to the pump.
     
  2. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    I am aware of the EPA regs in some of the states around here for vending gasoline. A town near here would allow a maximum 500 gallon double walled steel tank above ground. Mounted on a concrete pad with either a cinder block or concrete wall surrounding the fuel tank. Wisconsin put a bunch of the Mom/Pop "tavern on the snowmobile trail" gasoline vendors out of the fuel biz by putting tighter restrictions on the small above ground tanks.

    What is the capacity of the tank for fuel on the lake?
     
  3. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    There is a 29 gallon Tempo Gas Walker built by Moeller. Just what you wanted; for your hobby to get more equipment intensive and more expensive as it goes. Not to mention that the 29 gallon will weigh more that 2 X the 14 gallon.

    That would be a nice part time retirement job though, selling fuel at the Major Brand Convenience Market. You could Hydrodyne to and from work.
     
  4. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    narrow gauge railroad.

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  5. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    A long hose on a powered reel to wind up easily. Bury a tank in the yard and do a nice landscape shroud for it. Get the bladder @ 100 gallons. Fill the under ground tank. Roll up the bladder and stow it in the P.v.c. pipe that you have buried next to the tank. Cap the p.v.c.. Fill the boat tank. Fire the power plant and hit the throttle. You have two more fill ups before you have to hit the station for more petrol. Seems to me that this scenario will be expensive. Not as much as the Major Brand Convenience Store. Minimum $15,000.00 plus the first fill. Ouch. And the Store tank is on Store property. The home tank is on your land. Goes with you if you want to if you go elsewhere. You have loads of talent and the ability to get things done right the first time. You work hard and play harder. Call me when you're ready to dig. One of my better skills. I could bring the 53 gallon tank and keep the water boiling .
     
  6. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    I got my custom gas tank a couple of weeks ago. It turned out to be 35.5 gallons and here it is: Gas Tank.jpg

    This is where it will go: floor13.jpg

    The 2 plywood pieces are there for mounting screws to mount the tank with the tabs that you cannot see in the 1st pic. There is also a tab on the tank to hook the forward end to the floor/shelf in the 2nd pic which also is not visible in the 1st pic. The floor/shelf in the 2nd pic is coosa board that I need to glass in before tank installation. I am wondering if I could install the tank over wet fiberglass cloth to get some adhesion between the aluminum tank and glass? The sole purpose of the mounting screws is to hold the tank in place when I flip the hull for bottom paint. As you can see in the 2nd pic the vertical bulkhead is higher than the floor/gas tank shelf to hold the tank in place during rapid acceleration. Bottom line - should I install the tank over wet fiberglass cloth for additional adhesion or let the glass dry before tank installation?
     
  7. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I don't know, but what do you have to lose if it does not stick? It should be fastened down IMO.

    Great looking tank, where is the pickup?

    jim
     
  8. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    Nothing to lose if it does not stick. It will still be fastened down regardless of adhesion. The 2 pickups are at the bottom corners.
     
  9. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    On the other hand, if you gel coat it and let it dry, it would be waterproof.

    jim
     
  10. kevinb

    kevinb Elite Hydrodyner

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    Looks like they installed the fill and vent connections way up on the bow of the tank. Not much clearance and this will be a soft pipe connection that may need to be changed out every now and again,but maybe not in our lifetime. My old car (1968 firebird) had the softline go bad between the fill and tank but lasted +40 years.
     

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