RiverRat My shiny new 1971 Dyne

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  1. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Re: My shiny new 1971 Dyne

    If all you guys order from Skycraft I think I will go down there and ask for a discount. Very Happy Cool

    I had the boat out today, if I turn hard enough to get the deck under the top speedo loses it's source.

    On easy acceleration there is no fall over speed. The bow comes up to a planning attitude and stays there. I took my grandson all the way around the lake at 13 mph with no problem. By 25 my trim is in the mid position. There is a little torque steer slow, non in the midrange and some at 40 and up.

    jim
     
  2. RiverRat

    RiverRat Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Re: My shiny new 1971 Dyne

    I thought about asking if they knew you to see if I could get a discount, but I think I already did! Makes me wish I was back in FL again so I could actually go in and poke around. Sounds like they have a ton of stuff that's not listed on the web site. I would guess they may even be willing to bargain a bit if you ask real nice.
     
  3. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    They have all kinds of stuff. I have bought a lot of alumunum there. There are racks full of electronic equipment, some I can't even identify. All kinds of electronic components.

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  4. RiverRat

    RiverRat Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Re: My shiny new 1971 Dyne

    First team practice with the new baby dyne. I have a wedge on order. pulls 2 couples fine. More than that, and I need a second spotter to keep the bow down. It planes and holds speed just fine at about 11 or 12 (airguide isn't fully calibrated yet, but was only 1-2 mph off at 40 according to GPS).
     
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    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I guess Jim was right...again. Maybe I should have installed a wedge...
     
  6. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    OK,

    Here is my low speed test. Hold 15 all the way through a barbell turn. Not 15 1/2 or 14 1/2. Preferably it should stay right on 15. No under-speed in the turn and no over-speed when rolling out. The boat should be steady on speed by the time it crosses the wake on the way back in. No throttle adjustment is allowed during the pass, and the boat stays on 15 with a skier.

    jim
     
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    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Re: My shiny new 1971 Dyne

    riverat,

    I was looking at the pictures of your boat. The pylon is a lot higher than mine to clear your motor. That is creating more moment arm to pitch up the boat. The obvious answer is to pull off the stern eyes for big loads but, if you need a release then that is not an option. Although I have built inline releases. I would lower it as much as possible.

    You could use a rig like the Janesville triple which puts the pull point further forward, so it could be lower also. That creates issues with the back seat, I guess.

    jim
     
  8. RiverRat

    RiverRat Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I don't think I have the pulling capacity to exceed the structural limits of the pylon or mount for the pylon, so to avoid the hassle of attempting to hook up and unhook ropes to the transom, I would like to be able pull as much as possible from the pylon. I will have a heavy duty triple pin release on it soon, and I can adjust the height of that so it just barely clears the motor to help with the moment arm a bit. Then I can either use the release to hook up big loads (not ideal for many reasons, but would work) or just loop the rope over the pylon and let it slide down to the top of the release. That should save a few inches. Add that to another 5 degrees of tuck, and it should help quite a bit. Will it be enough? I don't know yet.

    I have also though about different ways of getting the pull down lower, but not necessarily all the way down to the transom. The best option I came up with so far was a short section of rope attatched to each tow eye (about 8-12 inches) that could be attached to the ropes coming off the pylon. This would hold the ropes down closer to the transom, and should give enough clearance around the motor.

    Last resort is a sliding bridle (beefed up version of the old water ski bridles).
     
  9. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    A stern lifting prop would help too.

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    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    It is a little known fact that the 18 I/O's have a small hook built in to the bottom right at the transom. When they refinished mine they sanded it out because they did not realize that it was supposed to be there. The hook or lip is there to help it on plane. Ab or Tom can probably tell you the exact dimensions, the best I can remember it was about 1/8 deep and about 3/8 wide across the whole transom.

    You could also put a bigger hook at the trailing edge of the spray rails to help it.

    There is a more drastic modification that I actually did to my first ski boat, but then you will be in the world of highly modified motors and boats like me.

    jim
     

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